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Path: g2news2.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!newsfeed-3001.bay.webtv.net!newssorter-3001.bay.webtv.net!not-for-mail From: kw-0...@msn.com (GOP Liars) Newsgroups: soc.senior.issues Subject: Re: Is Obama a Serial Liar? Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 22:59:45 -0700 Organization: WebTV Subscriber Lines: 158 Message-ID: <26573-4DC8D451-24005@baytvnwsxa001.msntv.msn.com> References: <2gsfs6p8da0p3hb3eelgn83dj8m6b9l3v8@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: baytvnwsxa001.msntv.msn.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUApdumKlTQhUQ+/u7PZDsap3aAHa4CFFfeesnQ0zQtgtZnr4vD/MF9vG8b Content-Disposition: Inline Is Obama a Serial Liar? Group: soc.senior.issues Date: Mon, May 9, 2011, 6:54am From: Sordo <so...@netzero.net> Accusing someone of lying is a serious matter. (Then Why Does FOX NEWS call what they do NEWS it's all lies) Especially when that someone is the President of the United States. (George W Bush was the biggest liar and murdered 4,000 plus of our troops) Charges of that nature should be leveled based only on absolute proof of a deliberate statement, intentionally made, whose sole purpose is to deceive. (Have you heard the whoppers the GOP house and Senate members tell everyday?) Based on this criterion, President Obama is a liar. Demonstrably so. And a disturbing pattern is emerging that allows for the possibility that our president is a serial liar. Consider: In just the last month, Obama has made several statements that are just not so. Statements made to the American public that were in direct conflict with known facts. In April, Obama flatly stated that implementing ObamaCare will reduce the deficit by $1 trillion. A day later, the Congressional Budget Office reported that statement was 'incorrect,' pegging the "deficit savings" at $210 billion over 10 years. (This wasn't based on a CBO report it was based on a GOP Heritage Foundation report) In the same April 15 speech, Obama stated that the tax burden on the wealthy is the lowest it has been in 50 years. A simple fact-check proves him wrong. Obama did not correct his false statement and the media didn't either. (It is at 35% down from 45% GW Bush tax break and they pay 15 to 20% after loop holes) In January of 2009, Obama stated that it was no longer necessary to kill Osama bin Laden to win the war against al-Qaeda. (Sorry you got this confused with GW Bush who said he wasn't worry about bin-Laden and disbanded the task force that was looking for him)(IN 2008 when running Obama said at a debate that if he found out that bin-Laden was in Pakistan that with or without permission he would go after him) On May 1, 2011, after the successful raid by Navy Seals that killed bin Laden, Obama told the nation that he made the capture or killing of Osama bin Laden a "top priority," and had instructed CIA Chief Leon Panetta to make this job number one. (The one where he made bin-Laden the number one job) Which statement is correct? Last week, several of my friends asked me if I believed that bin Laden was really dead. The questions weren't surprising, considering the mass of misinformation and conflicting accounts of bin Laden's death now emanating from the White House. (Lord you're stupid! It takes trail and error to get it right sometimes GW BUSH still hasn't explained where the WMD's are) It appears the question of bin Laden's demise was only settled after al Qaeda issued a statement confirming it. (It was settled when they had DNA evidence that it was bin-Laden where the hell do you think the video's came from and other information?) What does it say about Obama's credibility when the pro-Arab al Jazeera media reports are given more credibility than our own president? (Maybe in your world even GOP leaders agreed that bin-Laden was dead) Maybe that's why Columbia School of Journalism just awarded al Jazeera a journalism prize. (Could be boy you have there Frank Lutz taking points down pack) Giving Obama the benefit of the doubt, I'll allow for the possibility that he underwent a drastic change of heart and altered his position on bin Laden. It happens. But when added to the increasing number of statements Obama continues to make that defy reality, the facts, and common sense, I'm more inclined to believe Obama's "mis-statements" are a deliberate effort to deceive the American people. For example: Obama told the American people that not spending money is "mortgaging America's future." (People spending money grows the economy by building up the credit base it gets businesses going and hiring why did you think GW Bush told America to go shopping after 9-11 did you think you were feeling bad and that buying something would cheer you up? BTW GW Never recovered the money they loaned to the airlines billions lost but no one seems to notice?) Who knows, it's possible Obama actually believes this, but anyone with an ounce of common sense knows we can't spend our way out of bankruptcy. Another blooper: Obama stated that increased drilling will not solve our energy problems. Huh? Again, the media let this statement go unchallenged. (At least Sen. Vitter called him on it.) (Sen. Vitter and ex-client of the DC Madam and in the back pocket of the oil companies would say that but what he doesn't say is that they have issued new permits to dill and it takes nearly 7 years or more to process oil from well to gas for your car so it's correct that it wouldn't solve the problem) Obama would have us believe that the big bad oil companies are to blame for our skyrocketing gas prices, despite the fact that every energy decision made by Obama, from with holding drilling permits to increased regulatory burdens being placed on big oil, has directly resulted in raising the cost of gasoline. (Explain the BILLIONS of dollars in profits these poor misunderstood oil companies are posting in the first quarter and we need to still subsidize them?) (see above about permits and it's the speculators that are driving up the oil prices and after BP don't you think that some sort of safety measures need to be in place.) Obama would like us to ignore the fact that his Energy Secretary, Steven Chu, stated in 2008 that he wants to "figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe." Since then, gas prices have doubled. Mission accomplished. (Another FOX News made up story) Despite the pain at the pump, Obama's energy disinformation campaign has been quite successful, with a new poll showing that only 9% of Americans believe that Obama is responsible for rising gas prices. (Ahhh your heart aches because the other 91% are right!) Tailoring the facts to reflect the most favorable interpretation is an accepted prerogative of the bully pulpit. (Boy you got FOX NEWS down path) Every president will of course, spin the news to a certain extent. This is not new. But under Obama, there appears to be a deliberate campaign by the White House and many segments of the government to blatantly deceive the American people. (FOX NEWS bogyman strikes again) Consider our Department of Homeland Security: Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told Congress last week that the Obama administration is trying to come up with a new yardstick to better reflect the improvements it says it has made. The Washington Times correctly noted that, unable to meet its border goals, the DHS merely moved the goals. Arizona Sheriff Larry Deaver pretty much confirmed the Washington Time's report, testifying before Congress that the U.S. Border Patrol has told its agents to stop arresting illegal aliens crossing the border from Mexico to keep the illegal immigration numbers down. In other words, deceive the American people by peddling perception as reality. (The Peter King anti Mexican hearing with only witnesses from his take on things. King refused to allow anyone from testifying that would have told a different story that there have been more arrest since Obama took office and Obama has sent National Guard troops and has increased the funding for more officers GW Bush did nothing) Obama and his administration are masters in getting Americans to think with their hearts instead of their brains. (Remember GW Bush and is WMD's and his lies that brought us into Iraq where he let over 4,000 troops die because he lied?) After all, emotions are easier to manipulate than facts. (That is why FOX NEWS uses the fear factor and gets ex-Bush cronies to swear to it) And many truths are easier to ignore than acknowledge. (True that GW Bush and Dick Chaney are war criminals) But not acknowledging reality, doesn't change the reality. And we ignore reality at our own peril, as we are now finding out on a daily basis. Though not specified in our Constitution, I believe Americans should have the right to enough information to make informed decisions. Instead, we are being fed a steady stream of outright lies and deliberate misstatements. And when we the people fail to challenge our elected representatives when they lie, (They did actually the GOP got there butts kicked over Paul Ryan's kill Medicare plan) we not only enable them, we become complicit. We also forfeit the right to complain when reality hits us in the pocketbook while America continues its slide to the level of a third world country GOP Liars and Carnival Barkers 本科

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