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美国人分享:为什么东亚移民融入美国文化的程度,明显高于南亚移民? In the US, why are East Asians as a whole much more integrated within American and more Western friendly compared to South Asians?

2022-08-26

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新移民在融入主流社会之前,大都会和已经存在的移民交往,所以他们的文化会往既存的移民文化上靠。

正文翻译


I’m a child of immigrants myself as my family is from Bangladesh. I was born and raised here. One thing I’ve definitely noticed between the different Asian immigrant communities is that East Asians as a whole tend to integrate with American and Western culture much better than South Asians. When it comes to naming, culture, and lifestyle, East Asians in general seem to try to integrate with they local cultures. On the other hand, South Asians tend to be much more insular and hold on to their culture much more strongly. Many South Asian immigrant families pretty much refuse to integrate and live their lives similarly to how lived back in their home countries, my family included. One issue this causes is culture clash as kids of immigrant parents don’t culturally get along with how their parents want them to live.

我本人也是移民的孩子,我的家人来自孟加拉国。我是在美国这里出生、长大的。可以确定的是,我在不同的亚洲移民社群之间注意到了一件事,那就是东亚人这个整体,往往能比南亚人更好地融入美国文化和西方文化。当涉及到起名字、文化和生活方式时,东亚人在总体上似乎会尽可能地融入他们当地的文化。另一方面,南亚人往往孤僻得多,对自身文化紧抓不放的劲头也比旁人强烈得多。有很多南亚移民家庭几乎是拒绝融入的,他们过生活的方式也和他们在本国的生活方式类似,这也包括我的家庭。由此导致的一个问题就是文化冲突,因为移民父母们的孩子在文化上,无法与他们父母希望他们采用的生活方式相调谐。


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Fun-Attention1468
They're a much older immigrant group. Specifically Chinese immigrated in large numbers in the late 1800s

作为一个移民族群,他们古老得多。特别是华人,曾在十九世纪末大量移民。


I read somewhere that it's easier for group to integrate if they seek higher education. No idea how true that is, but based on the limited observation of my ol dumb ass, it holds true for a handful of ethnic groups (Chinese, Jewish, east Indians, etc.)

(回)我在某处读到过,如果这个族群追求更高的教育,那就更容易融入。我不清楚其真实性如何,但根据本傻缺有限的观察,这话对少数几个族裔群体(华人、犹太人、东印度人等)是适用的。
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It's def true. Education usually means you have a skill, which was useful for trying to immigrate (I believe that's still the case today but I'm not positive)

(回)这绝对是真的。教育的结果通常是你有了一技之长,这对试图移民的人来说是很有用的(我相信直至今日仍是如此,但我不太乐观)。


It's still the case in the US, Canada, and western Europe (I'd expect it to be policy in most developed countries). It's created a real brain drain problem for some countries like Russia where those who are able to get PhDs tend to study outside of the country and tend to ultimately immigrate to other countries where they'll have better career prospects.

(回)美国、加拿大和西欧的情况仍是如此(我估计在大多数发达国家都是这样的政策)。这给俄罗斯这类国家带来了严重的人才流失问题,那些有能力拿到博士学位的人往往会去国外学习,并最终移民到其他国家,在那里他们会拥有更好的职业前景。
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X
because east Asians moved here in large numbers much longer ago. Indians didn't really move here in huge numbers until the mid-21st century.

因为东亚人在更早之前就大量迁入这里了。而印度人直到二十一(译注:原文有误,应为“二十”)世纪中期才开始大量迁入这里。


Same as if an Italian came here today they'd have no issue, but in the 1900s they faced massive racism. Same with the Irish during the 1830s, the Germans in the 1780s, etc etc.

同理,如果一个意大利人在今天来到这里,他们是不会有任何问题的,但在1900年代,他们要面对严重的种族主义。1830年代的爱尔兰人,还有1780年代的德国人等也都是如此。


I know what you meant. But I met plenty of first generation families from east Asia who prides themselves in assimilating quickly.
I think it has something to do with their mentality- successful career may be more important then culture.

(回)我知道你的意思。但我遇到过很多来自东亚的第一代移民家庭,他们会因为自己能迅速融入而自豪。
我认为这和他们的心态有关,成功的职业发展可能比文化更重要。


Again, they have had immigration dating back to the mid 1800s. Japanese and Chinese have become more normalized over time, and that leads to acceptance and quicker assimilation.
If they immigrate to nearly anywhere in the United States, they aren't the "first" ones to do so. The same can't be said for Vietnamese, Cambodians, Thais, Hmong, and Lao immigrants.
Sure, they might have some who aim to culturally assimilate, but there's a lot to be said for having strong cultural recognition and existing communities to ease them in to communities and help assimilate.

(回,德州)再说一次,他们的移民可以追溯到十九世纪中期。随着时间的推移,日本人和华人已经变得更加正常化了,这就导致(新来的移民)会被接纳乃至更快地被同化。
如果他们移民到美国的几乎任何地方,他们也不是“第一批”这么干的。但越南人、柬埔寨人、泰国人、苗族人和老挝人的移民可就不是这种情况了。
当然了,他们(东亚新移民)中间可能有一些人,其目标就是在文化上融入,但存在强大的文化认同和业已存在的社群,能让他们轻松地融入社群,也有助于他们被同化,在这方面是大有文章可做的。
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