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作者：s5k　回复日期：2010-05-10　01:22:13　 

　　KERRY O’BRIEN: TO COME BACK TO CHINA, AMERICA HAS BEEN THE WORLD’S MOST POWERFUL NATION FOR A CENTURY. BUT GIVEN THE PROJECTIONS THAT CHINA IS WELL ON THE WAY TO BECOMING THE WORLD’S BIGGEST ECONOMY, WITH ALL THAT THAT POTENTIALLY DELIVERS INCLUDING GREATER POLITICAL MUSCLE, HOW HARD IS IT GOING TO BE FOR AMERICANS TO ADJUST IN A MATURE WAY TO THE INCREASING PROSPECT THAT YOU CAN’T BE NUMBER ONE FOREVER?
　　
　　PRESIDENT OBAMA: Oh you know I don’t think about this as a zero sum gain, I actually think that America can be number one for a very very long time but we think that there can be a whole host of countries that are prospering and doing well. Here’s one way to think about it. The Chinese standard of living and industrial output per capita is about where the United States was back in 1910, I mean they’ve got a lot of catching up to do.
　　
　　KERRY O’BRIEN:THEY DO
　　
　　PRESIDENT OBAMA: It is in our interests, both of our countries interests for China to be successful, for China to be prosperous, because that means they’re more likely to be stable, that means they’re more likely to be able to deal with issues like the energy efficiency of their industries, and reduce pollution, and so we’re not interested in constraining China, we want China to do well. The only thing we want to make sure of is that a country like China as it is growing and inevitably will end up being the largest economy just because of the enormous size of their population, that they are also taking their international responsibilities seriously and that they recognise that with great power comes great responsibility.

作者：s5k　回复日期：2010-05-10　01:29:51　 

　　KERRY O’BRIEN: ARE AS YOU AS WEDDED TO, ARE YOU AS CONVINCED THAT A CARBON TRADING SCHEME IS THE BEST WAY TO GO, THE BEST WAY TO GET EMISSIONS DOWN AS KEVIN RUDD IS?
　　
　　PRESIDENT OBAMA: I think that, I am absolutely convinced you have to put a price on carbon of some sort, so there are a number of ways of doing that, you could do a carbon tax, you can do a cap and trade system which is what originally I had suggested, very similar to the program that Kevin Rudd has proposed, but the key is to change incentives for the market place, where we are actually pricing these pollutants that are going into our atmosphere, if a price is placed on them, if industry has to take them into account then we can count on the market place responding effectively. If it’s free to pollute then you’re never going to have a, companies making all the myriad decisions that are required in order for the entire system to move in a better direction, and it’s never sufficient for a command and control system in which government is trying to chase down every single polluter. What you have to do is have a market mechanism to make it work more efficiently.
　　
　　这是上文的前一个问题，主要是讲要以市场机制定价碳关税。
　　既然中国per capital的生活水准只是美国1910年的水准，那就拜托美国先把这100年的碳关税缴了吧

作者：开福寺的和尚　回复日期：2010-05-10　01:41:17　 

　　　有种就停止向美国出口，让美国人没有衣服裤子穿，没有茶叶喝，没有玩具玩。或者大幅度提高这些东西的价格，让美国也来个物价飞涨。
　　
　　
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　　说这句话的人是傻b吗
　　
　　一点经济学常识都没有 你以为中国想出口啊，你不出口你怎么办
　　
　　啊，你那么严重的产能过剩危机谁帮你解决，你不出口美国人就没
　　
　　有衣服穿了？？这什么强盗逻辑，还控制美国物价，更是放屁
　　
　　中国内需能够起来还需要美国人帮我们消费

作者：开福寺的和尚　回复日期：2010-05-10　01:42:22　 

　　奥巴马说的不是雷语，是事实
　　
　　
　　如果中国人，印度人，巴西人，非洲人都能像 欧美国家的人民那样
　　
　　过高质量的生活，这个地球的资源绝对不够，有人计算过
　　
　　那需要5个地球

作者：wangyida2b250　回复日期：2010-05-10　01:45:56　 

　　作者：s5k　回复日期：2010-05-10　01:29:51　
　　\　　这是上文的前一个问题，主要是讲要以市场机制定价碳关税。
　　　　既然中国per capital的生活水准只是美国1910年的水准，那就拜托美国先把这100年的碳关税缴了吧
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　　美国可以交100年的碳关税，那你先把一百年的科技文明使用费和专利费先交了，顺便把这些年盗版的欠费先补上，SB人的SB逻辑’
　　
　　中国不是号称自己是5000年的文明么，人家才建国200多年，谁该交的多？过去的事还扯个什么，要扯往原始社会了，有意思么？

作者：wangyida2b250　回复日期：2010-05-10　01:49:12　 

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